A panel debate with Christopher Hitchens, William Lane Craig, Douglas Wilson, Lee Strobel, Jim Dennison.
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Hitchens wupped ass! I was very frustrated at the end, though, because of the inequity of time given to the three deists to sum up (pile on) Hitchens, without his being able to address their summaries, which I felt were ridiculous. Four deists x three minutes = 12 minutes, vs. one atheist for 3 minutes. That really stunk.
Hardly, there was only 4 of them…
Have you seen Bruce Willis on Looper where he gunned more than 20 enemies in just a few minutes? I feel it here, with Christopher Hitchens. He owned them all.
do animals go to heaven? we’re evolved animals. noone ever talks about animals going to heaven. why? what do we have what animals don’t have. EGO.
This is a challenge to all atheists/agnostics who may read this.As an atheist of any degree you possitively put fourth the assertion that humanity can continue without the concept of God. You now have the burden of proof. Criteria of proof: historical logical phylisophical scientific rational and reasonable. If you can not provide proof to meet the criteria than leave worldly matters to us theists who can meet all of the criteria.
Sad to think Hitch’s coughing fit was related to the cancer that ultimately killed him.
Don’t know what you’re getting at.
Just playing devils advocate: We have a soul…i am not sure where the hell the soul comes into evolution (which might be why fundies have such a hard time with it, not that I think about it).
my dog has a ”soul” too. when i look at my dog i see emotion and what not. it’s doing the same thing we do but we are way smarter. the ”soul” is the brain. most complex thing we know. all because of evolution.
WLC is so dishonest. It’s not about the truth for him, but rather distorting the truth so he appears to win. This seems to be a common theme with apologists. WLC is the worst though.
These 4 gentlemen use the “God of the gaps” all the time. When will Humankind stop doing this? It’s been proven time and time again that it’s a wrong appoach. 2 hundred years ago they would have used other arguments to justify the myth of God. And in 2 hundred years from now, they’ll certainly be using other ones, different from the ones they now use. IN THE PAST: -See the rain? How does water come from the sky? Must be God! <-you laugh at this, People will likewise laugh at them in the future.
The cancer itself didn’t kill him–it was hospital-acquired pneumonia. This may seem like a distinction without a difference, but it could have major implications for healthcare and health policy in the future–our overuse (and ill-use) of antibiotics certainly helped to kill Christopher.
If we’re going to make it fair, Hitchens can only nod and shake his head. Bet he still would’ve demolished.
So we have a far better judicial system than 1000 years ago… and back then.. people wouldn’t get justice from police.. so they were FORCED to rely on getting justice the afterlife. But today much more often people get justice… or a semblance of it. So… aren’t we, in enforcing justice, going against god’s will? Shouldn’t we just let the people suffer so god can make it all BETTER? And if not.. WHY NOT?
Also, when one team wins a football game and THANKS GOD… that means he favored that team over the losing team? Did god do this? If so why not intervene on things like an airplane crash… why not influence that? If god doesn’t actually control the result of a football game… then shouldn’t we correct the people thanking him for the win?
If god can exist, then he must? Can someone help me out on this logic? I mean magic CAN exist, but any sane person knows it doesn’t.
Craig is a brilliant orator, and wonderfully articulate. But in all his verbose fluff he still winds up holding and empty sack full of nonsense. He provided no evidence whatsoever. He comes off as a performer rather than a debater.
Moderator needs to butt out
if something exists it has an explanation. the universe exists it has an explanation. god explains the existance of the universe. false premise, hasty decision.
prime mover must exist outside space/time aka god. false premise, hasty decision
fine tuning is due to necessity, chance, or design. i think design is the best. not even an argument
no objective morality without a god. objective morality exists therefore god. false premise
god is the greatest being. if its possible there is a god, then its possible there is a world in which god exists. and if god exists in one world he exists in all worlds. circular reasoning.
4 intellectual midgets against an intellectual giant. The world will miss Christopher Hitchens.
I’m with you there. Craig is a very intellectual debater, only arguing onthe wrong side.
i wish cancer hadnt taken him so soon… I can hear him cough and see him drink every debate. I wish he new he had it much sooner.
More like… stupid reasoning